2 hour commute twice a week

A survivor of a 2-2.5 hour one-way commute who has sworn off long commutes ever since. My commute is an hour, but changing etc adds on 30 minutes (before/after). That commute leaves very little time for anything else. She also needs a supportive boyfriend who will help her problem solve, rather than dismiss her misery with its normal, everyone deals with it, get over it.. If I take the bus, its an hour and takes two buses + one mile walk. I worked swing shift, which helped, but I also had a sports car, which I *loved* to drive! I dont work work from home either, just happen to literally be able to walk to work. I commute a total of 4 hours a day to London from my home town. There are a lot of ways to answer the long commute question, its more about finding the right answer for your specific household than the one true Right Answer. You can see them broken down by metro area here and by county here. 40 x 5 = 200, or over 3 hours. There are certainly lower income pockets in the inner city, but you cant really apply the typical city center/suburb model to our sprawling behemoth. LA has decent public transit! Thats ridiculous, seriously thats 20 hours a week driving. Train is less stressful, but can be up to 2.5 hours if he misses a bullet train. Doesnt LA have any kind of train/rail system? The answer to your letter is that you and your boyfriend are both righta 2-hour commute is normal, if on the extreme end of normal, and its also exhausting and bad for your health and nobody would think you were being unrealistic if you gave that as a reason for looking for a new job. There is some swearing, if you worry about that thing. Were not even talking about using any freeways here that would be even longer. Long Beach to West Hollywood seems absolutely insane to me (WeHo is bad enough on its own traffic-wise without the added commute). Was just going to post a question about ways to make the commute bearable. The few times I drove in (a 45 minute drive without traffic), it was 1-1.5 hours each way. The worst might have been a twenty minute commute that required three different trains, travelling in a U shape. If I lived in a more metropolitan area I wouldnt mind a 1-2 hour commute on mass transit because there would be less stress (not navigating traffic) and I could feasibly check work emails or do anything else on my phone. I take an express bus, so with traffic, it can be 2 hours one way. Speaking as a lifelong Bay Area resident, I would never say that 2 hours is *normal* for the Bay. Its not about what a normal commute is, its about what the OP wants in her life and what shes willing to do in terms of her commute. The later I leave, the longer I usually have to sit around waiting for the bus, which adds to the total time. There are jobs worth moving, even in the same town, for. I love my 30 minute commute on laid back country roads now. My bf and I have been talking about buying his fathers house in OC (and I love OC and love living in a suburban area after growing up in a big city, and living in big cities all my life and now living in a very residential area). When I had a job in the San Fernando Valley the commute was fine because the traffic went in the opposite direction. DC has a total population of like 600,000 people, but huge numbers commute in from MD and VA every day for work. Its like when youre filling up a container with liquid using a funnel if you pour too fast, itll overflow, even if there is still room in the container. RightIm in the DC area and the max I can handle is 60 minutes for a normal commute. A friend posted earlier in the week that median prices in Seattle are now over $800,000. Its really not that bad (not counting bad weather/unexpected road closures/etc.). By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. etc. With a handful of transitional weeks as the exception, Ive had anywhere from a 5-30 minute commute the entire time in LA. I could read, listen to music, or even shut my eyes for a moment. I guess my number 2 worst commute is anywhere east of DTLA to anywhere west of Los Feliz. :) It doesnt matter if its Anaheim to LB, Pasadena to Westwood, etc. Old job was against traffic, current one iskind of across it. You cant sustain a lifestyle with that level of time wasted and frustration building behind the wheel. This is a self-imposed problem. And that was for the majority of my working career. With construction on I-5 and 99? He also started work at the crack of ass, so he was home not long after we got home from school (and we had a SAHM.) His commute is 2 hours +. Look for something new. Work until 5-6PM Freeways and surface streets werent designed for the volume of vehicles on the road. And again psychologically we love our cars and the freedom to move about on our own schedule so even if they spend the money to improve the public transport system (there is a big push in that direction to add more lines to the Metrolink train system), the people who have the privilege to choose, arent inclined to choose public transportation. Theres also a direct bus route that gets me there in about 45 minutes. Luckily I was able to convert to remote worker status and avoid the whole mess entirely. To add another data point, I live in New England and drive from a small city in one state to a large city in another state. Back then, it was a Big Deal for us to go to the Big City for shopping, dining, etc. Used to be hell (25 km in 1.5h, yay for bridges and never ending roadwork, sometimes 2h-2h30 for the 1st snow, or 1st snow after a 2 week spring people tend to forget how to drive in winter conditions in the spring, crazyness) but I changed jobs 5 years ago for one 5 km away. That drive usually takes closer to two hours. The time of day changes whether a neighborhood or block is busy or echoingly empty, whether the subway is packed with commuters, sports fans, tourists, or concert goers, or if its spooky with just you and some person that could be coming back from a casting call for vampires. Thats not being special snowflake, thats being realistic about your limitations. Im putting in my notice during my 3-month review.No point leading them on, I know even if I stayed another month Id still quit in the end and its impossible to interview without calling out with these hours. Its definitely not for everyone! Infrequent trains that are rarely on schedule, over-populated stops that take 2-3x as long waiting for people who dont fit to step off. My friends uncle did this for almost 30 years! LA math: 4 blocks closer = $100K more -30 minutes of your life back every day x 365 = sanity-debt. Its only 12 miles but traffic is pretty bad in my area (and Im only able to do it in this time because I avoid the highway highway traffic could easily double the commute home on a bad day!) I zone out or just watch a movie on my phone or just sleep. Its true, if you leave after 3pm, its a parking lot. My 20 mile commute to Santa Monica is on average 1 hr 20 mins (on bad day, 1 hr 40+ mins) so unfortunately, while this is not the national norm, I think it is a norm in SoCal. So once in a blue moon, I would hit them all, and when that happened my commute took 45 minutes. They never listen. Yeah, if it was breezing through traffic at least but nope. My daily drive is about 26 miles, and takes just about 1.25 hours during the school year, including one stop to pick up my carpool buddy. I could walk from my place to work if I wanted, which is very convenient. Office for National Statistics (ONS) figures show 3.7 million workers travel for two hours or longer every weekday. I would imagine most people decline to work that far away from home precisely because it isnt a sustainable commute, thus keeping the average commute lower. But youll figure it out. Put 15 to 30 minutes on your calendar at the start. Get horror and comedy with My Favorite Murder! It takes 15-20 minutes most days, never more than 30 in heavy traffic. The traffic in was non-existent but the end of day traffic was horrible. Im in the Tulsa, OK area and our average commute is 20 minutes so 2 hours is absurd given my frame of reference. And I even think of Castro Valley as far, but thats not too bad in the grand scheme of things. A 2 hour commute is a reason to move. Its far more difficult to live close to work in southern California, because residential neighborhoods just werent built close to business districts or manufacturing districts or wherever the jobs were because everyone had cars. You likely have a job you're required to be at for 8 to 9 hours a day, minimum. If I take the subway (and there are no delays), my commute is about 35-40 minutes. I live in the Atlanta suburbs. I would *hate* that. Interestingly enough, the only sketchy/uncomfortable experience Ive EVER had on LA Metro was on the Expo line late at night on the weekend. You get used to it. Otherwise, consider moving. Im in Northern California in the Bay Area and 30 miles would be maaaaaybe an hour in rush hour. Its not the neighborhoods so much that are the problem (youre not usually spending much time in those neighborhoods) but the people riding the train. It was a nightmare and I said I would NEVER do it again. Of course, I also spend more and make more sacrifices to afford it. I used to live in Los Angeles. The commute is one of my top criteria in deciding whether or not to take a job. Now I commute 15 minutes to work but its a minimum of 90 minutes to get to a city of any size with anything interesting to do, even with no traffic. Yeah, I literally do not do anything during the week. Now it take 15-25 minutes depending on how long the lines are at the main gate. Ive had that experience a few times where Ill go to Los Angeles or through San Bernardino and catch the traffic at EXACTLY the wrong time. I live AND work in Redwood City (also SF Bay Area) and it takes me 20 minutes. : $15.00 - $22.00 Per Hour. I tell people the car I drive is not nearly nice enough to want to spend a significant portion of my life in it! If you have pets, it costs them lost time to spend with you to get attention, be played with, be exercised. If I left super early I could avoid it, but I would hit it on the way home. Ride share with a coworker and alternate driving days so that this time is your social time. I think LA is just so far past vehicle capacity at this point. Anywhere outside that, bring supplies.). I second the comments about working LB, Signal Hill or Orange County. Im curious what everyone thinks is a normal commute. I did a 15 hour a week commute for 6 years, now OK that's probably on the high side of what you'd want to do but it was perfectly doable. . Oh, and audiobooks, podcasts and library books. I work from home and share a car with my wife, whose job is on the other side of townall of 10 minutes away if we go exactly at the speed limit! I would have left a merely very good job a couple of years ago. I did not get the job. My current commute is 14 miles and takes 16 minutes because I work in Sunland, where no one goes ever, so no traffic. because it took 45 minutes just to make it down La Cienega to the 405. Mine is about 10 minutes in the worst traffic, but that is because I live in a tiny little town. I think its worth considering whether the trade-offs are worth it when youre dealing with a long commute. Its kind of improved my attitude toward it on most daysbut I still daydream of the days when Ill be able to kick back with a movie while my self-driving car does all the work :). Right, but then you have to walk HOME six miles, too. In this episode of The Thermo Diet Podcast Jayton Miller sits down with independent researcher, entrepreneur, and fellow metabolism fanatic Gerogi Dinkov. Im basically paying extra rent so I can park my car closer to work (in my driveway). But I guess its normal there. I usually commute by bike, which is about seven miles because of the path, and takes 45 minutes or so. 2) Move closer to your work (may not be possible) If you are not on my email list, sign up at Craig Peterson dot com slash subscribe. I started them a year and a half ago and theyve changed my whole commute life. My sister drives even further, close to 60 miles, and her commute is about an hour. I walk home from work when its nice out (prefer not to walk there so I dont end up all sweaty when I arrive at the office if its hot out) and it is so wonderful and soothing. Im not a caffeine user, so I found that eating and drinking was the best way to keep myself awake on long drives. I decided to move to a location thats 20 minutes by bus from work. Dont let him hold you back from reorganizing your life to make it more tolerable to you. My average drive time is between 50 and 90 minutes each way for 15 miles. I worked in Sherman Oaks/Encino and lived in West Hollywood. At my old job I lived almost exactly 18 miles from my office. Accept this and stop trying to beat it. I tried the drive at 7:00 AM two days in a row, and it turned out to be a nightmareschool buses and dump trucks turned the no-passing areas into parking lots. She calls friends. I ended up moving out earlier than I had planned because I couldnt handle it. http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/10/06/the-true-cost-of-commuting/, https://www.askamanager.org/2016/03/open-thread-march-18-19-2016.html, http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-echo-park-traffic-20180404-story.html, https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2013/demo/SEHSD-WP2013-03.pdf, https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/us/california-today-super-commutes-stockon.html, my employee asked a colleague to help her fake a deal, Im constantly interrupted when I need to focus, and more. I imagined conversations like, Two hours, isnt that crazy! Is it right? I couldnt drive for 5 hours each day even if I didnt have to work too, and there was no traffic- and I *like* driving for fun! You're awake and nominally functional for 16 hours a day. Exactly. To live closer to work, my mortgage would double, my house would shrink by half, and my utilities would triple (the county where I work is REALLY poorly run). Sigh! I cannot figure out how the average in Alisons link was calculated 30-40 minutes seems nice but definitely rare in my office! is so funny (someone in the film thinks building freeways will make traffic jams a thing of the past). Im surprised the US average is 26 minutes. Accidents certainly add to it, but theres honestly so much traffic that their effect is marginal unless the accident is blocking the only transit artery for that area (areas bit farther out from central LA). Walking to work is the best. If its an option to exit, Id go for a longer way around just to keep from sitting it traffic for 2 hours. Leaving in May and returning in September missed the worst of the hot season, but even so, the first few weeks of fall semester were regularly over 100 on a daily basis (frequently over 110). I also knew many many people who commuted to the central valley from the Bay Area on a daily basis because thats where they could afford to buy a house and that could be two hours each way which sounded like a nightmare (the commute and cost of housing is why I no longer live in CA). I mean because I've never had to do this drive on a regular basis for long periods of time. They offer typical traffic estimates. I remember how I felt about it two years after and can promise that compared to then I feel a lot more confident and comforable now (~5 years out). Fire Pro > Blog > Blog > 2 hour commute twice a week. I got an apartment with a roommate 3 miles away from my office after that. Delays are constant, leaves on the track, problematic signals, repair work etc. FASCINATING. It might not make the commute much shorter but at least you could relax and read a book. Ill take my smaller midwestern city (metro population of about 2.5 million) where I can get to work in less than 30 minutes and I dont need to sell a vital organ so that I can afford to buy a house or rent a decent apartment. Public transit in San Francisco is really gross. Opps.looks like you already work out in the morning. The joke among stats nerds around here is that the problem isnt the mean, its the standard deviation. There is one (1) single freeway to get from the east side to the west side. I can also take work with me onto the subway and turn part of my commute into my workday, and I can telecommute a day or two a week. The worst place is Stockton, where 8% of commuters travel 90 minutes or more to work. There are a lot of people selling stuff, panhandling, or just riding the trains to get off the streets. Now Im going from Kingston to a small town in Surrey, and its nice to be going against traffic most of the time (the traffic is caused by schools or roadworks). Id rather do cool stuff in my time off and take a pay cut. BUT when I first moved here I lived in West L.A. and worked in Seal Beach and yeah it was 1 1/2 ish I got used to it and did audio books, called family liked my Grandma, tried to carpool when I could, etc. This is so spot on. London based and an hour door to door is my rule of thumb. Im work in Milwaukee and live in the suburbs. I have a good job at a good organization that Im not willing to leave, and trying to find work in a different state is a difficult endeavor. Can't be sustainable imo but his are you fairing. Also a New Yorker. My sister was in the backseat also GPSing the route on her phone, also trying to get around traffic. However I do have a lot of flexibility about WFH and hours (lots of early morning calls), so it all works pretty well for me. I may be being naive (Ive never been to the US) but LA is a big and densely populated city doesnt it have any public transport you could use, like suburban trains, a metro, buses? That said, I do still miss the beach and weather a ton. But there is tons of survey data (census and others) on *actual* peoples *actual* commutes indicating that 2 hours is not remotely typical, which is what the OP was asking about. Is it an hour today? I lived in San Jose commuting to Cuptertino for 6 years. And what would be 3am traffic here in SD on the freeways. Now Ive got to badge into a parking garage, park, walk across the street, take an escalator, badge into the right access area of the office complex, take an elevator, badge into the office with my 3rd badge, and use a key for my companys office space. I hated the long drives, but when you have 3 million people going to the same place at the same time, what else can you do ? Im 35 minutes away on public transit and consider that pretty great (Im walking distance from the station on this end and so is the office on the other end, so its around an hour door to door) but I have coworkers who commute at least 2 hours from Sacramento (by bus) or Gilroy (by train) and its not really out of the ordinary. I live in Southern California in a large 5 bed, 2 bath house with a HUGE backyard, and our rent is only $2200 a month! I also wasnt driving it was two hours on the train so I could relax, read, knit, sleep, whatever, and it didnt feel like completely lost time. I want to point out that the OPs situation and the article Alison links to is Apples to oranges. Currently, I commute from my village to Northumbria University, this being an hour commute via local bus services. I was really lucky to find a job on my side of town. X-D. Oh dear god, you commute up from Long Beach?!? Obviously it comes down to you personally but I wouldn't mind that at all. There wasnt really anything heated in that series, and the narrator had great range (different voices for surly teenager to old mother goose). my commute could be as short as 20 minutesat midnight when no one else was driving. Is there an accident on I-75 and I might as well pull off and have dinner at a restaurant right now because I will legitimately get home at the same time as if I try to sit here on the highway? Thats where I hope OP and her boyfriend will end up in the long term, but knowing whats normal in a region and what actually isnt is a useful bit of information. (Yeah, I said it. But I strongly agree that 2 hours is not common in the Bay. I live right in the heart of Los Angeles. 2 hour commute twice a week . I actually kind of enjoy my commute now instead of dreading it every day! Its so hard for me to give 100% at work when I can barely recharge to 50% by Wednesday which is not only unfair to me, but also unfair to the owners and my colleagues. Hoping you get another job soon and closer to home! The traffic headed to Hayward was absolutely miserable, the traffic on the main road I took in Hayward was miserable (Why did the chicken cross Industrial Boulevard?
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